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Care to offer some examples of good and bad?

So we will not be seeing a white paper on the 'Use of white papers in the PR industry' from you then? Pity could have ben a good read.

@James: I considered that, but I'm not exactly an objective observer here and as such not the person to start bashing/ praising specific clients/competitors.

But it's a widespread problem. Just visit the website of any big IT company (IBM, Microsoft, Oracle) and do a search for 'white paper'.

At least 90% of the results you gets are biased at best and lengthy product ads/manuals at worse. I can think of no reason why anyone would voluntarily read such a document and be happy about it.

For good examples, look among the big analyst firms and consultancies - companies that have something to gain by appearing independent and knowledgeable. They too have a tendency to talk in jargon and clichés, but at least they're not simply pitching a product.

@David: now there's a good idea. I might just do that to prove that we're a big name agency ;-).

Shame ;-) Point taken though. Which begs the question: if white papers have had their day - what's the modern, relevant equivalent?

Mark;

What an interesting way to try and sell your services.

The good news is that white papers have not had their day. Rather they are shifting into a powerful tool.

For example, a recent survey showed that 86 percent rated them as effective. See http://www.writingwhitepapers.com/blog/2006/08/29/it-pros-love-white-papers/

Mike

Mark, I have to strongly disagree with your assessment given the positive statistics compiled by organizations such as eMarketer and Marketing Sherpa on the effectiveness of white papers.

But I do understand your concerns because I also see far too many bad white papers. Many tout product names and solution advantages too early and too often in a paper, and come off sounding like glorified sales brochures. This combined with the other half that insist on having their IT professionals write their white papers, I think, has contributed to your current perceptions about the medium.

But I think you are going to extremes to tar and feather the entire medium because of a few bad apples.

@Mike: a surprising figure, to say the least. However, it's probably fair to add that the source of that survey, TechTarget, isn't exactly objective - being the self-styled "largest library of vendor-provided white papers on the Web."

But also in response to James's remark: I don't think that commercial white papers have had their day. I'm just saying that the greater majority of them fails to reach their intended audience.

According to that same TechTarget survey, white papers are supposedly read most by decision makers - who, as we all know, are notoriously stretched for time.

If you then consider that the really new and / or interesting information (if there is any at all) in commercial white papers can often be summarized on a single page or less... well, then you have to wonder whether an 10 page document is the right way to connect with these people.

Didn't mean to ignore you, Jonathan, but my last reply coincided with yours.

I'll readily admit that my view on the medium may be limited, as there obviously are market segments that LEWIS doesn't cover.

Still, I've seen dozens of product-oriented white papers, but seldomly one that managed to rise above the level of, 'Our [insert product] is ideally suited to meet todays [insert target audience]'s challenges.'

So it's definitely more than just a few bad apples. But who knows - maybe people like yourself and Mike will eventually be able to turn this around.

Mark,

I speak with Mike regularly, and I know we share a common goal of producing more coherent white papers in a business environment that sorely needs them.

But there is still a lot of education that we have to do on a regular basis to change some existing mindsets about the medium.

I'm glad we had this opportunity to have you see another perspective.

Mark wrote about white papers: "At least 90% of the results you get are biased at best and lengthy product ads/manuals at worse."

I have to agree: most white papers are really, really awful. But remember Sturgeon's Revelation: "90% of EVERYTHING is crud."

I started writing white papers five years ago because I realized that most were very lame, and there were no industry standards for how to produce them.

Since then, I believe people like Mike Stelzner, Jonathon Kantor, and (I'd like to think) myself have been raising the bar and producing white papers that actually say something useful to readers, and earn a decent ROI for vendors. It can be done.

But any random sampling of white papers, especially those posted by reflex by the largest vendors, will still turn up loads of pompous and ineffective documents.

What I'd be interested in hearing from you guys is if you see any value in product white papers. Because personally, I only think white papers are useful if they review a topic thoroughly and objectively (as far as that's possible).

Product white papers, however, are by definition biased and as such basically elaborate sales pitches.

If I were a manager, I wouldn't buy that. I would ask someone to get me a one page, bulletted-format summary. Which begs the question: why write these lengthy documents at all?

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